Posted by: WVN777
« on: September 18, 2013, 07:22:02 PM »So I may have logged this issue to the wrong forum ? If so then my apologies.
I've done a fresh install with EasyTutu, and applied the Tutu Fixpack (for the first time) along with a tweak called "Allow Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor" that I've used before. Studded Leathers get a -20 to Move Silently and a -20 to Hide in Shadows, but according to their Readme, the Shadow Armor is not subjected to those penalties, and I'm quite sure in my last game that the item behaved as expected, with a +15 to Hide in Shadows and no reduction in Move Silently.
In my modded tutu game, both _LEATH08 and LEATH08 have these effects:
Type: Stealth bonus (59) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: -30
Type: Hide in shadow bonus (275) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: -5
Type: Hide in shadow bonus (275) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: 15
The Stealth (Move Silently) of -30 offsets the "No Armor" bonus of +10 for a -20. The first Hide in Shadows entry of -5 counters the "No Armor" bonus of +5, and the second adds the +15 bonus. But that leaves the item with a net -5, not the +15 that I recall in my previous game. If the first two entries were added by that mod, I'm thinking that either the Stealth (Move Silently) entry above should only have been -10, or a (missing) Stealth entry should have added +20 to eliminate the penalty.
So this time, I thought that tutufix (or rather, EasyTutu, which installs the core buxfixes) had reinstated the -20 (back down to -30), perhaps by first deleting any positive adjustment to Stealth (Move Silently) that it might find there, before adding the +15 to Hide in Shadows if it's not already present.
Edit: I've just found a reference to this at their forum, which I hadn't seen before, and have re-posted my question over there.
I've done a fresh install with EasyTutu, and applied the Tutu Fixpack (for the first time) along with a tweak called "Allow Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor" that I've used before. Studded Leathers get a -20 to Move Silently and a -20 to Hide in Shadows, but according to their Readme, the Shadow Armor is not subjected to those penalties, and I'm quite sure in my last game that the item behaved as expected, with a +15 to Hide in Shadows and no reduction in Move Silently.
In my modded tutu game, both _LEATH08 and LEATH08 have these effects:
Type: Stealth bonus (59) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: -30
Type: Hide in shadow bonus (275) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: -5
Type: Hide in shadow bonus (275) Target: Self (1) Power: 0 Value: 15
The Stealth (Move Silently) of -30 offsets the "No Armor" bonus of +10 for a -20. The first Hide in Shadows entry of -5 counters the "No Armor" bonus of +5, and the second adds the +15 bonus. But that leaves the item with a net -5, not the +15 that I recall in my previous game. If the first two entries were added by that mod, I'm thinking that either the Stealth (Move Silently) entry above should only have been -10, or a (missing) Stealth entry should have added +20 to eliminate the penalty.
So this time, I thought that tutufix (or rather, EasyTutu, which installs the core buxfixes) had reinstated the -20 (back down to -30), perhaps by first deleting any positive adjustment to Stealth (Move Silently) that it might find there, before adding the +15 to Hide in Shadows if it's not already present.
Edit: I've just found a reference to this at their forum, which I hadn't seen before, and have re-posted my question over there.