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Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 18, 2004, 06:52:32 PM »

I installed the SoA portions,the ToB portions and the accelerator.Its not working.CTRL+I doesnt work either,i DID get SOME dialogs,but those were the original ones.It will run through a list of filenames when i keep pressing CTRL+I,and SOMETIMES,one of my characters will face one of my other characters all of a sudden,as if they are preparing to initiate a conversation...but none occur.

Do you have the party combinations listed in the FAQ? Will you post up your weidu.log file so we can confirm that you actually have it installed? Have you installed any large-overwriting mods since installing the banter pack that would overwrite the banter pack changes? Have you re-run Setup-Banter.exe to reinstall the mod?
Posted by: Question
« on: April 18, 2004, 11:54:31 AM »

I installed the SoA portions,the ToB portions and the accelerator.Its not working.CTRL+I doesnt work either,i DID get SOME dialogs,but those were the original ones.It will run through a list of filenames when i keep pressing CTRL+I,and SOMETIMES,one of my characters will face one of my other characters all of a sudden,as if they are preparing to initiate a conversation...but none occur.

All im getting is the original banthers that almost never happen and the scripted comments(Such as Jaheira telling Rylock shes a harper).Ive played for AGES(Real time) doing nothing but sitting there waiting for Jaheira to finish the romance dialogs,and the banthers didnt trigger.
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 11, 2004, 09:51:02 PM »

No, it's exceedingly unlikely that a corrupt download would extract and install yet not function.

You say you can't get the Minsc/Aerie/Yoshimo rock/paper/scissors to show up. Do you know how to decompile BMINSC to .d and send it to me, after installing Banter V4?
Posted by: Bren
« on: April 11, 2004, 06:50:26 PM »

But had you already seen that banter in your saved game?

That's just it I had not seen any of them with v4 installed - not one showed up.  After unistalling v4 and installing v3 I got 2 of Jan's back to back right after reloading the game.  The one mentioned above didn't show up at all.  Here's the logs:

(Original installation order)  This is a copy of the log before I did anything.  It's from another game folder but it's the same installation.  The only difference being this one is Banter Packs v3, (FW) Kelsey SoA & ToB, and Improved Oasis II v3.  This game had no glitches and all other items installed are the latest versions.  Also have this installation order in another game folder with another beta mod I'm testing and have had no issues with it either.

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #4
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #5
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #6
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #11
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #12
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #18
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #21
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #26
~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #11
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #16
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-OASIS.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-SPELL50.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #31
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-DOS.TP2~ #0 #0
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #2
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #3
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #3
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #4
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #5
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #15
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3
~SETUP-GROA.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-CRSOA.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #1

This is the log after reinstalling v4, then uninstalling v4 and installing v3.  This game had Improved Oasis II v5, (FW) Kelsey SoA, (PPG) Kelsey ToB.  Beta testing I write down exactly what is installed and the order of installation.  So after downloading the Banter Packs v4, Kelsey ToB and Improved Oasis II v5 from the new site, I installed them in the same order in a new game so not to mess up the other if anything went wrong.

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #4
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #5
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #6
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #11
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #12
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #18
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #21
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #26
~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #11
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #16
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-OASIS.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-OASIS.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-SPELL50.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #31
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17
~SETUP-DOS.TP2~ #0 #0
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #2
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #3
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #3
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #4
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #5
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #13
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #15
~SETUP-GROA.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-CRSOA.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #1
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3

If you think it could just be a corrupted download, I'll download the files again and try in a new game.
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 11, 2004, 01:41:43 PM »

What, exactly, did you do to verify that you weren't getting banters?

I was guessing you had not removed any of the v3 banters to begin with and none of those were showing up in the game like they normally do.  Example:  Minsc asking Aerie to make sure Yoshimo was not cheating while playing the game.  This one normally shows up pretty quickly once all three are in the party.  I completed over half of the quests and the only dialog windows that appeared were LTs from the romances.

But had you already seen that banter in your saved game? The variable that indicates that the banter has run would still be present in the saved game, so you wouldn't see it again.
Posted by: Bren
« on: April 11, 2004, 10:59:28 AM »

What, exactly, did you do to verify that you weren't getting banters?

I was guessing you had not removed any of the v3 banters to begin with and none of those were showing up in the game like they normally do.  Example:  Minsc asking Aerie to make sure Yoshimo was not cheating while playing the game.  This one normally shows up pretty quickly once all three are in the party.  I completed over half of the quests and the only dialog windows that appeared were LTs from the romances.

And if you have V4 installed, please post up your weidu.log file in its entirety.

I'll have to write it to CD to transfer it to this computer, but I will do that and post it for you.  I checked the log and the banterpacks was listed there.
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 10, 2004, 10:51:44 PM »

What, exactly, did you do to verify that you weren't getting banters? And if you have V4 installed, please post up your weidu.log file in its entirety.
Posted by: Bren
« on: April 10, 2004, 10:01:38 PM »

Yes, it was installed.  Tried reinstalling before going thru the uninstall and reinstall of v3.  Reinstalling v4 made no difference.  Any other ideas?
Posted by: discharger12
« on: April 10, 2004, 09:50:58 PM »

No banters of any kind are showing up after installing v4.  Uninstalled and reinstalled v3, they are all back.  I have a full SoA and ToB installed along with all the latest patches.  And no SK, the game, etc was not running during installation.  Any ideas why v4 would not work?

Re-check to see you really installed it. Alot of people think they did, but when they check they realize that they really didn't.

Or reinstall, that helps sometimes :)
Posted by: Bren
« on: April 10, 2004, 09:36:36 PM »

No banters of any kind are showing up after installing v4.  Uninstalled and reinstalled v3, they are all back.  I have a full SoA and ToB installed along with all the latest patches.  And no SK, the game, etc was not running during installation.  Any ideas why v4 would not work?
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 09, 2004, 01:39:13 PM »

As near as I can tell, CTRL+I goes to look at the INTERDIA.2DA list (which lists out everybody's banter DLG, BANOMEN, BAERIE, etc.) and tells one or all of them to attempt to start dialogue. I suspect that it is either a random or sequential selection, but I've never really rigidly tested it, because it's been good enough for me to know that CTRL+I = stimulated banter.

(It also spews out resource names on the game screen, but you don't need to worry about that, it's just a side-effect.)
Posted by: Bookwyrme
« on: April 09, 2004, 01:36:18 PM »

What, exactly, does Control-I do?
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 09, 2004, 01:05:51 PM »

That would probably require Weimeric Intervention(tm).

Gee, I might make that a feature request if I wasn't banned from Studios, where the WeiDU forums are currently hosted.
Posted by: Caedwyr
« on: April 09, 2004, 01:04:26 PM »

Yep, I just checked an the already installed components are not auto skipped.  If it is possible, it could save some headaches if the components that are already installed are autoskipped.
Posted by: SimDing0™
« on: April 09, 2004, 04:01:30 AM »

CamDawg uses the same way you do, with dummy files, yeh.