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Posted by: Almateria
« on: November 03, 2014, 05:39:50 AM »

Well, let's go one by one.
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-Sarevok's remorse for Tamoko and Yoshimo
-Mazzy's redemption of Korgan
-The Cold Mistress in Saradush
-The return of Yoshimo (not likely...)
-Saemon disguising party as monks
-More obvious clue for WK
-Bounty hunters
-Melissan turning your friends
-Illasera's return
-The yellow dragon and his eggs
-Extended item descriptions
-Cespenar's Flask
I marked what UB as slashed, ARP as bolded and what's already been done in other mods in italics, namely Korgan's Redemption and Ascension, I think.
Now, what's left is the return of Yoshimo, which is completely baseless conjecture, there's not a shred of evidence of it ever being planned.
Cespenar's flask doesn't make sense, since we can move to the Pocket Plane whenever.
The yellow dragon has also no evidence of what was supposed to happen or even at least where it was supposed to happen.

So hey, thread solved!
Posted by: Kulyok
« on: November 03, 2014, 05:11:01 AM »

Everything that's been done is inside the mod right now. I haven't heard of anyone working on more, except for Almateria in her SHS mod, but I know very little.
If you(anyone) is interested about anything that's not been included yet, you can also develop it yourself and either release it as a standalone mod, or include into UB.
Posted by: Loremaster -Guest
« on: November 02, 2014, 10:27:08 AM »

Any progress?
Posted by: Bex
« on: April 15, 2011, 01:08:54 AM »

Canonically, Tamoko ends up dead, whether you fought her or not. I suspect that any reference to it would be one of those things where whatever the PC might be able to say on the subject becomes your truth (unless you're allowed to lie, if it would make a difference... which could also be neat).
Posted by: Chao stik
« on: April 14, 2011, 04:57:29 PM »

Quote
Sarevok's remorse for Tamoko and Yoshimo

As I recall in you could talk Tamoko out of fighting you, I was wondering if that would come into play here
Posted by: picollo
« on: April 19, 2010, 04:25:59 AM »

I'm very interested in ideas that were discussed abuot missing ToB content. Anyone has archives mentioned in first post(with discussions from older forum)? Or maybe anyone remember those discusions, and could describe some details about list in first post?
Posted by: Painbearer
« on: April 09, 2010, 08:30:49 PM »

Any update?
Posted by: jcompton
« on: June 01, 2009, 01:50:44 PM »

I'm already convinced that Aerie is already plenty manipulative. She goes on and on about her wings, but if she was really as traumatized as all that, she'd never have survived it. No, she just wants the attention, and is milking the PC's sympathy gland.

"Evil Aerie" strikes again!
Posted by: Da_venom
« on: June 01, 2009, 11:58:43 AM »

true indeed:)

so annoying the pc has got to do all works:P
^^
Posted by: berelinde
« on: June 01, 2009, 11:33:58 AM »

I'm illogically attracted to NPCs that can change over the course of the game, so both a redeemable Korgan and a corruptible Aerie hold tremendous appeal for me.

I'm already convinced that Aerie is already plenty manipulative. She goes on and on about her wings, but if she was really as traumatized as all that, she'd never have survived it. No, she just wants the attention, and is milking the PC's sympathy gland.

And I just love the idea of Mazzy being able to redeem Korgan. In my world, it wouldn't be the PC helping Korgan get over his past, it would be Mazzy. So no more PC as therapist.
Posted by: Da_venom
« on: May 31, 2009, 11:15:55 AM »

very vague to say the least :D
but bhaal wanted to come to earth realm right?
and by doing that he would need a child(to poses that one)
or something
so bhaal would be able to live on earth again
with his godly powers
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: May 31, 2009, 10:04:01 AM »

If you recall last banter in BG2 SOA, Korgan already says that he will try to be a better man dwarf for Mazzy's sake
By "better," he's probably talking about good vs. bad, not the larger picture of Good vs. Evil. At most, I can see Korgan willing to abide by higher standards of grooming and manners (and grudgingly tone down his bloodthirstiness a notch) in order to sway Mazzy over--but offering to throw over his entire worldview is something else entirely. If you're talking about "redeeming" him from CE to NE, I wouldn't really mind that, but if the change bumps him up to Good or Neutral, that just perpetuates the idea that evil doesn't actually exist, and that CHARNAME missed his true calling of psychotherapy.

As for Aerie, she's easily pliable (a hell of a lot easier than Viconia, Sarevok, Korgan, or possibly even Anomen during his moment of crisis) because she's immature, physically and psychologically scarred, emotionally rather shallow, separated from everyone she's ever looked on as a mentor, thrust into a world where she's constantly being attacked (sometimes by members of her own party), and in general almost completely out of her depth. If there was ever somebody you could knock over with a feather, Aerie is it.
Posted by: Da_venom
« on: May 30, 2009, 04:33:11 PM »

since aerie got tired of being weak and let het self be corrupted(due to evil humans cutting of her wings)
xD
Posted by: Nijel
« on: May 29, 2009, 12:21:24 PM »


Having played with both of them in my party, I can totally see why that would suck big-time. There are two reasons why Person A might influence a fundamental change in Person B's overall behavior/personality:
1) Person A has a good deal more strength of character than Person B, and Person B wants to be better liked/tolerated by Person A.
2) Person A has a good deal more strength of character than Person B, and Person B wants to be more like Person A.
Obviously, #1 is more likely, as Korgan wants into Mazzy's steel-plated pantaloons. But are you actually suggesting that Korgan is a man of weak moral fiber, easily influenced by a single person of an alignment diametrically opposed to his own? On the contrary, Korgan is about as confident and self-reliant as they come, and while he might not mind a romp on the right side of the blanket for a change, that's almost certainly all it would be, and he damn well knows it.

If you recall last banter in BG2 SOA, Korgan already says that he will try to be a better man dwarf for Mazzy's sake, and it's not an act (we're not talking Viconia here). So, it seems Bioware has already stated it's reason 2.
And I'm not saying that Korgan should switch from CE (though his actions are those of a NE) to CG.
As for Sarevok and Viconia, those are Bioware content choices you can make (and Viconia redeem comes after a long long way and has a sad end, so you really don't have anything to complain about here). Here, we're talking about mod content. It's up to you to install it or not (as well as redeeming Sarevok or not by the way). If you choose to have Viconia, Sarevok, Korgan and Mazzy and redeem all the three evil bastards in your party, that would totally be your choice.

As for NPC corruptions, Nalia comes to my mind (she just lost everything at the end of her quest, it can gets worse with her abduction and the uncooperating authority), as well as Imoen (she got tortured twice, seems a good reason to change to me) and more Anomen content (he got his Chaotic Neutral corruption already after all) but Aerie ? Why would she be corrupted.

And I'm not against more "evil" content, on the contrary. But since the matter at hand is the Korgan/Mazzy Unfinished Business, I stated my mind on the topic.
Posted by: ddv
« on: May 29, 2009, 12:05:59 PM »

Corrupting Aerie? Now you're talking.