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Posted by: Regullus
« on: May 21, 2007, 12:07:32 AM »

Ah, well, the average girl gamer fanfic writer views nymphs as victims and victims aren't terribly interesting. If you recall, in both Bg 1 and BG 2 the nymphs need to be rescued. Hence a shortage of nymph protagonists in BG fanfiction written by not so average girl gamer fanfic writers.



Posted by: jcompton
« on: May 20, 2007, 10:08:22 AM »

Possibly they're are too sexually intimidating to the average boy gamer fanfic writer.

Except that fanfic tends to be a pursuit of average girls.

(I mean, uh, no, exceptional girls. Stupendous. Outta sight. You know what I mean.)
Posted by: Regullus
« on: May 20, 2007, 09:04:04 AM »

P.S. Why aren't there more nymphs in fanfic?

Possibly they're are too sexually intimidating to the average boy gamer fanfic writer.
Posted by: Bons
« on: May 08, 2007, 10:36:33 PM »

My part implies that Keldorn traveled with the party in the past, so I'd say that's in character. I read maybe a quarter of SeanFan's story a while back, so I don't remember much beyond the rebounding with Anomen. Conceptually, there's no particular reason Merena wouldn't associate with Valygar and Jaheira. These are people with similar interests in terms of the land, and Valygar has his cabin nearby. Merena could feel empathy with Valygar and his perception of his family being a curse, but I don't see Valygar as someone Merena would trust to be unequivocably on her side. She could work with him though, if there was a common goal. Jaheira would be more of a role model, and I can see Merena looking to her for guidance while she was a Bhaalspawn. It depends on the purpose of the story and how they are relating to her whether I'd agree they would fit. Here, Merena absolutely needed "the girls" to be the foil for her road trip. The setup is such that Merena's obviously isolated herself since Kelsey left and hasn't seen Keto, Nalia, Imoen or anyone else for months. I think that gives whom she associates with when she's not in that scenario some wriggle room, but if Jaheira and Valygar are always dropping by to borrow a cup of sugar and be chummy, that's a bit weird.


P.S. Why aren't there more nymphs in fanfic?
Posted by: Kulyok
« on: May 08, 2007, 01:40:34 PM »

I don't speak English that well.
Posted by: jcompton
« on: May 08, 2007, 10:29:09 AM »

The real question is: Why hasn't anybody written a 40-chapter Attic continuation of the alasafan ending?
Posted by: Kulyok
« on: May 08, 2007, 03:47:18 AM »

I must say, Eral's ending was one of my favourites.

I wonder, though: I've read SeanFan's story, and one thing didn't make sense to me. In the original, Merena is surrounded by Imoen, Nalia and Keto, and they go very well together - it's their fabulous interaction, mostly, that keeps Bons' story going. (Well, that, and the plot. :) ) But after "The End of Eral" is done, and SeanFan's story begins, Keto, Imoen and Nalia mostly disappear, to be replaced by Keldorn and Jaheira, sometimes Valygar. Could Merena be that fickle?
Posted by: Eral
« on: May 05, 2007, 12:47:02 AM »

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Well, obviously Eral opting out is a different matter entirely.
Excuse me, I didn't opt out.  >:(
I chickened out. Completely different.  ;D


 
Posted by: SeanFan
« on: April 29, 2006, 12:09:07 AM »


I'm afraid I just  didn't think of crediting Bons by name since I was providing the link to all the Bad Kelsey stories. If that was a faux pas, I sincerely apologize.

Well, obviously Eral opting out is a different matter entirely. And anyway, it wasn't anything worthy of French terminology, I just thought it was weird. Not least of which, as Bons points out, "Jason Compton" and to a lesser extent "Kelsey" is usually a thing you only want to mention in passing at the Attic.

I imagine the ideal way to introduce it is something like the stereotypical "nervous young man in a drugstore" condom purchase.

"Yes, thank you, I'll be treating you to a work inspired by Bons, Eral, David Gaider, JRR Tolkien, Douglas X. Cringely, Malcolm X, Xavier Cougat, Xandozan the Exhalted, jasoncompton, Glen A. Larson, and Harper Lee."

I must say that they have been woefully lax in informing new forum members of your status as 'he who must not be named'.

Though to be honest, the reason your name came up so (relatively) prominently is that the intro to '"Second Choices" at the Attic was copied _verbatim_ from the  one I used for fanfiction.net. From my experience with posting my Jaheira/CN Anomen fic in which Kelsey was a minor character, I found that not all of the readers at ff.net knew who Kelsey was.

But as I mentioned to Bons, using your name didn't elicit a particularly hostile response from the denizens of The Attic. Unless, of course, I'm off all their Christmas Card lists and no one told me.

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But the story and the brickbats seem to have found their stride anyway. Chapter 9's comments, in particular, gave me a good laugh.

Yes, I imagine they did. FWIW, Kelsey will probably make another appearance before all is said and done; but in truth I haven't felt the need to put him in the story as much as some of my readers seem to expect. Although he was an important catalyst for the story, it's not really *about* him, after all.
Posted by: SeanFan
« on: April 28, 2006, 11:50:25 PM »

Like I said, I don't think it was a faux-pas since you gave the link. What gave me pause was using "Momma" instead of "Mommy" in the story. I like continuity, and Kylia's transition from "Boss" to "Mommy" was an important plot point to me personally that signaled the girl felt betrayed as well, and had taken her father off the hero-worship pedestal. Then again, what does my opinion matter? People were supposed to have liberty with their endings.

Interesting that you would notice that. I actually waffled between "Momma" and 'Mommy" and finally decided to go with "Momma" since it sounded slightly less modern to my ears. But it's certainly not a big deal, I can edit it back to Mommy if you like.

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What's amazing is that you mentioned anything PPG, Compton or Kelsey-related and didn't get the cricket-treatment. I guess since it's sugar-coated with the lure of the Attic getting to talk about how much they hate all three and how mean-bad-perverted said are, all while luxuriously remaining on topic, they gobbled it up like starving baby birds. Carry on, I say, and enjoy yourself!

Hmm, think we're getting into the area of cross-board 'history' of which I am blissfully ignorant. There were certainly no noticeable gasps of horror at the mention of PPG or JC, though the level of anti-Kelsey sentiment is definitely much higher there than it is here. So far though, people have been remarkably patient with my reluctance to a) make Kelsey an evil mastermind or b) provide a satisfying grisly end for the two-timing cad.
Posted by: icelus
« on: April 27, 2006, 10:58:56 PM »

P.S. Ding0, I have now removed all of your mod forums as punishment for mocking the Attic's lawyers.

You mean restricted access. 
Posted by: Bons
« on: April 27, 2006, 10:50:07 PM »

P.S. Ding0, I have now removed all of your mod forums as punishment for mocking the Attic's lawyers.
Posted by: jcompton
« on: April 27, 2006, 10:26:58 PM »

I'm afraid I just  didn't think of crediting Bons by name since I was providing the link to all the Bad Kelsey stories. If that was a faux pas, I sincerely apologize.

Well, obviously Eral opting out is a different matter entirely. And anyway, it wasn't anything worthy of French terminology, I just thought it was weird. Not least of which, as Bons points out, "Jason Compton" and to a lesser extent "Kelsey" is usually a thing you only want to mention in passing at the Attic.

I imagine the ideal way to introduce it is something like the stereotypical "nervous young man in a drugstore" condom purchase.

"Yes, thank you, I'll be treating you to a work inspired by Bons, Eral, David Gaider, JRR Tolkien, Douglas X. Cringely, Malcolm X, Xavier Cougat, Xandozan the Exhalted, jasoncompton, Glen A. Larson, and Harper Lee."

But the story and the brickbats seem to have found their stride anyway. Chapter 9's comments, in particular, gave me a good laugh.
Posted by: Bons
« on: April 27, 2006, 10:10:09 PM »

Like I said, I don't think it was a faux-pas since you gave the link. What gave me pause was using "Momma" instead of "Mommy" in the story. I like continuity, and Kylia's transition from "Boss" to "Mommy" was an important plot point to me personally that signaled the girl felt betrayed as well, and had taken her father off the hero-worship pedestal. Then again, what does my opinion matter? People were supposed to have liberty with their endings.

What's amazing is that you mentioned anything PPG, Compton or Kelsey-related and didn't get the cricket-treatment. I guess since it's sugar-coated with the lure of the Attic getting to talk about how much they hate all three and how mean-bad-perverted said are, all while luxuriously remaining on topic, they gobbled it up like starving baby birds. Carry on, I say, and enjoy yourself!
Posted by: SeanFan
« on: April 27, 2006, 08:40:51 PM »

I suppose. I just thought it was strange to cite me by name, when I arguably had the least to do with the story, and omit the two writers who directly set the table for the story being written.

I guess it's time to 'out' myself as the author of the story in the Attic.

BTW, I actually asked Eral if it was okay to use her 'End of' story before I began writing, and I also asked if she wanted to be credited. She gave me permission to use her story as a starting point, and said she didn't need to be credited. But since I was sure that some people would want to read the lead-in stories, I compromised by providing a link for those interested.

I'm afraid I just  didn't think of crediting Bons by name since I was providing the link to all the Bad Kelsey stories. If that was a faux pas, I sincerely apologize.