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Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: April 12, 2006, 01:12:38 PM »

Another Costak/Anchev issue. I think this one proves that Rieltar's last name used to be Costak, before BioWare changed it.

I just talked to Husam, and asked him about the Iron Throne leaders--the big bossh of the whole orrrrnizashion is "Reiltar Costashck." Which shows why BioWare failed to find that particular line when they went through the game changing all the "Reiltar Costak"s into "Rieltar Anchev"s.
Posted by: Salk
« on: April 11, 2006, 01:53:24 AM »

Agreed with SixOfSpades although it suits better the BG1 Fixpack than UB...
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: April 10, 2006, 07:37:05 PM »

Seeing as we'd be rectifying what is, after all, a rather silly oversight, and can't affect your odds of beating the game, it seems more like UB or Fixpack stuff than an actual tweak.
Posted by: Echon
« on: April 10, 2006, 05:20:21 PM »

I am sure it does, but even if it did not, you could have the area script cast a Clairvoyance spell.

I do not see what this has to do with Unfinished Business, though.

-Echon
Posted by: devSin
« on: April 10, 2006, 05:01:47 PM »

I don't think Explore() works in BG? I suppose you could fake the big bitmask, but I wouldn't.
Posted by: Salk
« on: April 10, 2006, 01:32:56 PM »

Sounds fair, SixOfSpades...We should make the Candlekeep area visible since the Prologue.
 Speaking of this we might also want to not make it unexplored again once we go back after Gorion's death...
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: April 10, 2006, 01:24:59 PM »

Oooo, another nitpick. When you start the game, the map of Candlekeep is unexplored.

"Hi, I've lived here all my life, but I don't know where anything is."      ???
Posted by: icelus
« on: April 08, 2006, 12:40:05 PM »

Awesome, thanks, Echon.  :)
Posted by: Echon
« on: April 08, 2006, 12:27:44 PM »

1355 They are led by Sarevok Costak.
1359 A man named Sarevok Costak is responsible for the frame.
7238 The seer told us that the leader of the Iron Throne was Sarevok Costak.
7243 The seer tells us that Sarevok Costak was the man who framed us for the murders at Candlekeep.

-Echon
Posted by: icelus
« on: April 08, 2006, 12:14:54 PM »

Regarding the Anchev/Costak stuff... I don't mind making the change, but an NI search didn't come up with a hit for Sarevok Costak (at least not in my game).  Looking back, though, I think I might have installed the Baldurdash GTU, which might have made the change.  If anyone wants to give me the dialog.tlk string references that need fixing, then that'd be swell.
Posted by: Andyr
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:05:00 PM »

I remember pointing that out somewhere before and suggesting changing them all to Anchev. There were also instances where Mr Anchev Senior is referred to as Rieltar, and other times Reiltar.
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: April 06, 2006, 08:40:39 PM »

I believe Costak is Brunos' last name.
I think you're right about that. Well spotted. [ADD] And while it's not exactly implausible that Rieltar would have married Brunos's sister, it is a bit of a stretch. [/ADD]

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They also switched freely between Rieltar and Reiltar.
His creature name is Rieltar, so that's the one I went with in the new journal--the old one only misspelled it once anyway. I didn't check the other documents, though.
Posted by: devSin
« on: April 06, 2006, 03:30:34 PM »

Always Anchev. I believe Costak is Brunos' last name.

They also switched freely between Rieltar and Reiltar.
Posted by: icelus
« on: April 06, 2006, 03:27:23 PM »

I remember this debate coming up somewhere else, too.  Andy might remember, as I seem to recall him posting about it.  BG1NPC, perhaps?  I don't really care one way or another, so whatever the consensus feels is best is OK by me.
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: April 06, 2006, 03:22:28 PM »

On the pickpocting issue, I realize that an unstealable Longbow isn't much of an issue, but I'm still with CamDawg: Yay for logic and things making sense. I do have my party Thief pickpocket the other party members now & again, if only to roleplay practicing his skills.

But I just remembered another nitpick: Sarevok's last name. The Iron Throne party in the Undercity refers to him as Sarevok Anchev, which is Rieltar's last name and the name that one assumes Sarevok would have been given when he was adopted. But if you go to the Diviner in Chapter 7 and ask him who's in charge of the Iron Throne, he says it is run by Sarevok Costak. It is possible that Sarevok would have dropped the name Anchev because of its association with a man he despises and is dead by then anyway, but that's highly doubtful, since it's (mostly) on the strength of his relationship with Rieltar that he was able to seize control of the local branch of the Iron Throne and all its assets. So we are left with this possibilty: Because the Diviner is, well, a Diviner, he can know what Sarevok considers his own true name is. He has stopped regarding Rieltar as any sort of father, and so takes a new name: Perhaps his mother's maiden name, as she might very well be his actual mother, and therefore another link with Bhaal.

So what do you all think? Is he Sarevok Anchev in public and Sarevok Costak in private, or should the text be edited so that he's all Anchev, all the time?