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Posted by: Reverendratbastard
« on: October 12, 2004, 07:21:03 PM »


 okay, i get dibs on the Conviction Mod. :P
Posted by: Mongoose87
« on: October 12, 2004, 06:34:16 PM »

Suppose one feels they should do good things but doesn't have the guts to do them?
Posted by: neriana
« on: October 12, 2004, 04:08:42 PM »

And, as far as that goes, every evil party-joinable in BG1 has committed multiple evil acts in the past.

  ummmm ???... if you say so.

If you don't commit evil acts, you're not Evil. If you don't do good things, you're not Good. So sayeth my alignment philosophy. Which is why most people are Neutral.
Posted by: Reverendratbastard
« on: October 12, 2004, 02:50:05 PM »

And, as far as that goes, every evil party-joinable in BG1 has committed multiple evil acts in the past.

  ummmm ???... if you say so.
Posted by: Janneia
« on: October 07, 2004, 04:08:36 AM »

In BG1, Charm Person works more like it does in P&P.  You can question people you've charmed...and ask them for things.

My Algernon's cloak was on overdrive. Seriously. I had it on my thief who went around charming people then robbing them  ;) I took everything from the entire twon of Beregost once, when I was extremely bored. I couldn't get through one of the taverns though. Red Sheaf? The one where there's a locked crate with 9GP in it. That was the only thing I couldn't get....Anyway,

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Heh.  I had forgotten about that - my characters were loaded up with Magic Missile and Sleep instead.

I liked Chromatic Orb too, later on in the game when they started to affect people.

Sorry for butting in. I couldn't help myself. honestly.  :P
Posted by: Mongoose87
« on: October 05, 2004, 09:19:59 PM »

Well that depends on what else was in the wine sauce.

Seriously, I didn't mean pure evil.
Posted by: Kish
« on: September 30, 2004, 07:19:37 PM »

How evil are we talking about here?

NPC: Yes, I killed everyone in the village.  And ate the children with a nice white wine sauce.  I'm doing it in another village next Tuesday.
GUARD: You're coming with me.
PC: No, he's not, he's my friend.

I'd hit the PC's alignment hard at that point.
Posted by: Mongoose87
« on: September 30, 2004, 06:45:20 PM »

What about a neutral character who deosn't commit evil acts himself, but keeps the company of both evi land good charatcers?  Should he/she be penalised for having diverse friends and protecting them?
Posted by: rreinier
« on: September 26, 2004, 06:01:31 AM »

Well, since all children younger than 8-10 years old are Chaotic Evil, It'd be impractical to kill them all...
Posted by: Drugar
« on: September 26, 2004, 05:53:34 AM »

But no-one was around to hear it, so did she really fall?

Other example, if a 8 year old is teasing another kid to the point of crying, and Detect Evil reveals the kid to be evil (blame bad parenting by daddy Kangaxx), does a paladin have to kill the kid?
Posted by: rreinier
« on: September 25, 2004, 10:37:57 AM »

I'd say that killing Phandalyn should not result in a Virtue drop (you're defending yourself from attack), but it may result in a Reputation drop, since you did kill a paladin...
Posted by: SimDing0™
« on: September 25, 2004, 08:42:51 AM »

If I don't help out friends unless they pay me, don't stop a mugging because it's not my problem or smack a kid in the face because it's annoying (with a club), it makes me evil, though nothing to make me deserve death.
I've long maintained that not taking an active part in proceedings tends towards neutral, even in cases where you can stop a crime or whatever. However, I think D&D disagrees because of all this balance rubbish, and I'm also fairly sure Kish doesn't support my view.

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Any paladin who kills people simply because they're evil would get cast out of the Order asap. If they haven't commited an actual crime, there is no basis for execution.
You have to be careful here, though, because committing a crime or violating the paladin's code does not necessarily equate to performing an evil act.
Posted by: Drugar
« on: September 25, 2004, 04:50:50 AM »

Of course not, one can be an evil person but not have committed any crimes. If I don't help out friends unless they pay me, don't stop a mugging because it's not my problem or smack a kid in the face because it's annoying (with a club), it makes me evil, though nothing to make me deserve death.
Any paladin who kills people simply because they're evil would get cast out of the Order asap. If they haven't commited an actual crime, there is no basis for execution.

Chaotic Good characters though, are prolly a different story.
Posted by: Caswallon
« on: September 24, 2004, 08:05:15 PM »

Sim: Ah. :)

Kish: Which doesn't alter my point - according to this, every evil non-joinable will have committed multiple evil acts in the past as well.
Should I be allowed to kill them without retribution from Virtue?

An evil-aligned person enters the tavern. It is right for a paladin to attack him? (As a general rule - not taking PC vs NPC etc. into account.)
Posted by: Kish
« on: September 24, 2004, 07:26:08 PM »

And, as far as that goes, every evil party-joinable in BG1 has committed multiple evil acts in the past.