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Posted by: Barren
« on: October 06, 2004, 10:02:53 PM »

It was cut. I think the +1 to all stats was a primitive version of the +2 to your main stat, but it was judged overpowered and replaced.
Posted by: Bibbi
« on: October 06, 2004, 07:02:55 PM »

@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

The first 3 are Deck of Many Things results.

so what's this one?

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@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~

There's also a journal entry about infiltrating the monastery; it's Saemon who provides you with the costume.

so this is in the game?  I don't remember it... or was this cut?
Posted by: Bibbi
« on: October 06, 2004, 07:01:21 PM »

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@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]
You didn't recognize these?  I thought Cespenar was pretty memorable, myself.

I thought that this was cut along with the idea of summoning Cespenar from a bottle.  As in, this was dialogue from when he appeared from the inventory item.  Maybe not, I try to ignore him as much as possible

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which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.
No, he never comes back.

well, I found he didn't either, but maybe this was initially what the designers planned, and it turned out to be cut for whatever reason...
Posted by: Barren
« on: October 05, 2004, 06:23:46 PM »

@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~
@69940 = ~Rowyn~
@69941 = ~Rowyn~
Valygar's planned Master Wraith encounter.

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@68007 = ~So the time of your victory has finally arrived... and now you must decide whether to leave this world  and your mortality behind forever.  Not a simple decision, <CHARNAME>.  Or is it?~
@68008 = ~What do you think I should do, Valygar?~
@68009 = ~I don't want to leave you behind, Valygar.  I love you.~
@68010 = ~I'm sorry.  I feel I have to see this through, I have to accept my birthright.~
@68011 = ~No, it isn't that simple at all.~
@68012 = ~I'm not very qualified to advise you, <CHARNAME>.  I've never been very comfortable with power.  The thought of attracting the attention of other gods, some who might be jealous, would not sit very well with me.~
@68013 = ~But I know that you'll make the best decision.  You always have in the past, and I trust that you always will in the future.  You laugh at me for such confidence, but I believe it.  You are unique beyond anyone I have ever encountered.~
@68014 = ~If you stay with me, I can only offer the solace of my company.  I would love to continue our journeys together... there is much that we could still do, many places we could go.~
@68015 = ~But if you leave, that doesn't mean I will love you any less, <CHARNAME>.  I will remember you, and hope that the power you gain will make you happy.~
@68016 = ~If you've taught me anything, it's that power isn't something to always fear.  I only hope that the life you choose isn't one you regret.  As for me... our time together has been worth everything.~
@68017 = ~I love you as well.  I wouldn't blame you for not wanting the power and the taint of your sire... but I would ask you to reconsider if you were to refuse it simply to remain with me, <CHARNAME>.~
@68018 = ~Truly?  I could not see myself deciding the same.  To attract the attention of the gods with such power would not sit well with me, although the idea of exploring the planes is attractive, I'll admit.~
@68074 = ~Then this is good-bye, <CHARNAME>.  I wish you well, my love.  With luck, we will meet again.~
@68075 = ~You... will stay a mortal, after all of this?  Then I cannot wait for our journey to begin, my love.  Our new future awaits.~

Valygar's dialog at the end if he's romanced.

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@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

The first 3 are Deck of Many Things results.

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@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~

There's also a journal entry about infiltrating the monastery; it's Saemon who provides you with the costume.
 
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@70242 = ~Cold Stone~

From the Cold Mistress quest.

Posted by: Kish
« on: October 05, 2004, 06:01:54 PM »

@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~
Aren't these in the ice lab in Watcher's Keep?
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@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
This is what Aerie says to the Master Wraith.
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@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
This is what the Master Wraith always says to the PC's love interest.
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@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
Jaheira.  Master Wraith.
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@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
Viconia.  One guess as to the circumstances.
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@69025 = ~It's true.  Part of my profession involves the use of stealth in the wilderness, and I've felt like nothing more than a giant, clumsy lummox compared to some of the graceful halflings in my old unit.~
@69028 = ~Ha ha!  That is good to hear.  But a clumsy lummox you are not, Valygar.  Your skills are impressive.  There's not a ranger in Trademeet who could perform half so well.~
@69029 = ~Now you flatter me.  I, ah... I hope you do know that I have developed an... attachment to <CHARNAME>, Mazzy.  I... wouldn't want to hurt you, after all...~
@69030 = ~Now you flatter me.  Careful, or we'll make the others gag.~
@69031 = ~Truly spoken, my squire.  Fair enough, then... let's get moving.~
@69032 = ~Ah, my heart still belongs to my poor Patrick, Valygar.  But I am grateful that you would think enough of me to spare my feelings.  Thank you.  I wish you and <CHARNAME> all the best.~
@69033 = ~That means a lot to me, Mazzy.  Let's get back to the others before they miss us, shall we?~
This is an exchange between Valygar and Mazzy, which is in the existing game.  Only the lines which talk about Valygar being in love with CHARNAME can never be seen, because they check for the never-to-be-set ValygarRomanceActive variable.
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@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]
You didn't recognize these?  I thought Cespenar was pretty memorable, myself.
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@67113 = ~Brown Dragon Acid Breath~
Draconis' breath weapon.
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@67591 = ~Turned Paladin~
This is a message you receive when an evil cleric successfully Turns a paladin.
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@67807 = ~You find signs of <CREATURE> in the area.~
Isn't that part of the Tracking HLA?
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which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.
No, he never comes back.
Posted by: Bibbi
« on: October 05, 2004, 03:58:18 PM »

okay, here's what I got from this list, with everything I'm pretty sure isn't present to what could be present but no one has definitively found yet.  Feel free to correct.



@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~

@65910 = ~What of the inevitable pain you must give to the one you love?  The ranger you name 'Valygar'.~ [HGWRA108]
@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
@65915 = ~What is so inevitable?!  <CHARNAME> has fought the greatest foes...there is nothing that could come between us!~
@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~
@69940 = ~Rowyn~
@69941 = ~Rowyn~
@68007 = ~So the time of your victory has finally arrived... and now you must decide whether to leave this world  and your mortality behind forever.  Not a simple decision, <CHARNAME>.  Or is it?~
@68008 = ~What do you think I should do, Valygar?~
@68009 = ~I don't want to leave you behind, Valygar.  I love you.~
@68010 = ~I'm sorry.  I feel I have to see this through, I have to accept my birthright.~
@68011 = ~No, it isn't that simple at all.~
@68012 = ~I'm not very qualified to advise you, <CHARNAME>.  I've never been very comfortable with power.  The thought of attracting the attention of other gods, some who might be jealous, would not sit very well with me.~
@68013 = ~But I know that you'll make the best decision.  You always have in the past, and I trust that you always will in the future.  You laugh at me for such confidence, but I believe it.  You are unique beyond anyone I have ever encountered.~
@68014 = ~If you stay with me, I can only offer the solace of my company.  I would love to continue our journeys together... there is much that we could still do, many places we could go.~
@68015 = ~But if you leave, that doesn't mean I will love you any less, <CHARNAME>.  I will remember you, and hope that the power you gain will make you happy.~
@68016 = ~If you've taught me anything, it's that power isn't something to always fear.  I only hope that the life you choose isn't one you regret.  As for me... our time together has been worth everything.~
@68017 = ~I love you as well.  I wouldn't blame you for not wanting the power and the taint of your sire... but I would ask you to reconsider if you were to refuse it simply to remain with me, <CHARNAME>.~
@68018 = ~Truly?  I could not see myself deciding the same.  To attract the attention of the gods with such power would not sit well with me, although the idea of exploring the planes is attractive, I'll admit.~
@68074 = ~Then this is good-bye, <CHARNAME>.  I wish you well, my love.  With luck, we will meet again.~
@68075 = ~You... will stay a mortal, after all of this?  Then I cannot wait for our journey to begin, my love.  Our new future awaits.~

@69025 = ~It's true.  Part of my profession involves the use of stealth in the wilderness, and I've felt like nothing more than a giant, clumsy lummox compared to some of the graceful halflings in my old unit.~
@69028 = ~Ha ha!  That is good to hear.  But a clumsy lummox you are not, Valygar.  Your skills are impressive.  There's not a ranger in Trademeet who could perform half so well.~
@69029 = ~Now you flatter me.  I, ah... I hope you do know that I have developed an... attachment to <CHARNAME>, Mazzy.  I... wouldn't want to hurt you, after all...~
@69030 = ~Now you flatter me.  Careful, or we'll make the others gag.~
@69031 = ~Truly spoken, my squire.  Fair enough, then... let's get moving.~
@69032 = ~Ah, my heart still belongs to my poor Patrick, Valygar.  But I am grateful that you would think enough of me to spare my feelings.  Thank you.  I wish you and <CHARNAME> all the best.~
@69033 = ~That means a lot to me, Mazzy.  Let's get back to the others before they miss us, shall we?~

@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]

@67085 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67088 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67113 = ~Brown Dragon Acid Breath~

@67123 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67124 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67145 = ~Yellow Dragon Scorching Sand~
and the yellow dragon eggs

@67591 = ~Turned Paladin~
@67807 = ~You find signs of <CREATURE> in the area.~
@67808 = ~Irenicus reaks!~
@67809 = ~Kobold Amplifier~
@67826 = ~A lamp.~

I looked up the kobold and found a bunch of unused kobold files, including three amplifiers, a recorder, scribe, slave, swift.  they're all in the same CRE area as the kobolds used ingame (kamikaze, commando, captain)
don't know about the lamp or Irenicus
 
SetGlobalTimer("DerilLichTimer","GLOBAL",THREE_DAYS)
SetGlobal("DerilLich","GLOBAL",1)
ActionOverride("CeLich",ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT))
ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT)

which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.  for my part, i always kill deril and then let cernd return to the druid grove without trying to get him back.  so maybe this does happen, but people either don't let deril live or don't keep cernd in the party after this long enough to be hunted down by deril the newly made lich...
about the cernd thing, I tried a new game with letting deril go and waiting three days for him to return as a lich, but he hasn't so far.  I picked up cernd from the grove and waited around for three days but nothing.  I don't know if it needs more time, a specific place, or wasn't implemented.  but so far, i didn't get the encounter 

@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~
 
@70242 = ~Cold Stone~

@68585 = ~Dense Pudding~
@68586 = ~Dense Pudding~

@70626 = ~Fire Lich~
@70627 = ~Fire Lich~

also, there are several keys which I think might be used for the same thing...SARKEY01-04.ITM are all variations on the keys into Saradush's prison.  there might be more than one key, but I'm pretty sure we don't need four to get into the palace.  maybe one is for the sewers, though
 
@68304 = ~Einhiris~

Einhiris: how do you know this is the fallen solar? I'm interested.

when I looked on NI, the string led to the fallen solar CRE, which had the name Einhiris on one screen and fallen solar on another.  not sure whether this is just a situation of crossed strings or not...
Posted by: icelus
« on: October 03, 2004, 02:39:31 PM »

That would be cool if you could, but no biggie if you can't.  Once UB13 is out the door, I'm going to try and consolidate all of your research findings, weeding out the strings we've verified are in the game.
Posted by: Bibbi
« on: October 03, 2004, 01:50:39 PM »

ok, this is all of my list of strings.  I can compile it into one big list if you wish.  just let me know
Posted by: Barren
« on: July 19, 2004, 09:40:22 PM »

Well, in doing some searching, I was able to find Aranthis.  It seems he's a dog - and a war dog at that with spells too.  His creature file is TELDOG.CRE.  Have a look - it's kinda funny actually.

Heh... I checked, and it seems that there exist both a priest called Arenthis and a dog called Aranthis.
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: July 10, 2004, 07:26:26 PM »

the war dog mentioned, isn't there one like that in the underdark ambush party?  I know the one in the watcher's keep maze, but there's some kind of war dog (along with a bunch of other deleted dialogues) in the party with the ogre, goblin, etc near ust natha
In that party, all the enemies have names except the Skeleton and the War Dog.
Posted by: rreinier
« on: July 06, 2004, 01:42:04 PM »

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@68585 = ~Dense Pudding~
@68586 = ~Dense Pudding~
Might be from the WK Acid lab

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@68514 = ~Spellhaunt~
@68515 = ~Spellhaunt~
Appears in WK
Posted by: SimDing0™
« on: July 06, 2004, 12:41:29 PM »

I'm not sure about these.  Is the fire lich guarding Kangaxx's bones?  I thought it was an elemental lich and a shadow lich.  maybe this was the third lich planned, since there was another set of golden bones originally for kangaxx. 
"Elemental" kinda covers fire, though.
Posted by: Bibbi
« on: July 06, 2004, 09:20:22 AM »

Einhiris: how do you know this is the fallen solar? I'm interested.

when I looked on NI, the string led to the fallen solar CRE, which had the name Einhiris on one screen and fallen solar on another.  not sure whether this is just a situation of crossed strings or not...

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Aranthis: I'm having vague memories of a priest named "Arenthis"... (Edit: I'm pretty sure it's the Lathandrite in the Graveyard, involved in the Orphan Risa quest)

the war dog mentioned, isn't there one like that in the underdark ambush party?  I know the one in the watcher's keep maze, but there's some kind of war dog (along with a bunch of other deleted dialogues) in the party with the ogre, goblin, etc near ust natha
Posted by: rreinier
« on: July 05, 2004, 04:54:01 PM »

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@66552 = ~Can not cast this spell during combat.~

I'm not sure when this line pops up ingame
You get this when trying to go to your Pocket Plane in mid-combat.
Posted by: Barren
« on: July 04, 2004, 09:31:29 PM »

I mentionned that in my Weird Names thread.